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« on: July 06, 2010, 12:18:52 PM » |
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Hi guys, I have a low level cert waiting to be put on my car for the 340V8, but I have been told that the details recorded when the car was 1st registered here in 1987 are incorrect The engineer won't put the cert on until I sort it out  The chassis # has been recored as the same as the engine # D334K01102 I have been told I should be able to get it changed, but I am not sure if I have got the chassis # correct. The one on the inner guard is CL7 29 18 19 there is a bloody hole drilled in the middle of these numbers so not sure if its complete. The serial # on the ID plate is CL8-H-29/HCC3-C772 Can anyone clarify what the correct chassis # is likely to be? Cheers Trouble 340 
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Avenga
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2010, 12:48:31 PM » |
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what engine and transmission did it come with as stock
CL8-H-29 is a charger 770 with a 265 auto
CL7-H-29 is a charger 770 with a 265 manual
after that should be the date code. 2 letters for month and year then day of the month. after that it should have the body number.
so it should look like this.
CL8H29/AA11-1111
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 1975 Chrysler Avenger 1300 Super NZMR #553, 1972 Chrysler Valiant Charger 770 NZMR #384, 1980 Chrysler Avenger 1.3GL NZMR #432
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Trouble 340
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2010, 01:00:45 PM » |
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Hi Richard,
It was definitely a 4 speed manual 265, the inner guard seems to confirm what you are saying, the H must be where the hole has been drilled, its tucked up in its hiding place not much light in the garage I'll get a torch out in the weekend. I wonder why the serial number is not matching, you've seen the car its not rebuild and have meet the people that brought over from Aust.
So would the 1819 be all it is likey to have after the CL7-H-29 to be correct Chassis #? Thanks
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Avenga
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« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2010, 01:26:14 PM » |
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I'm not sure with aussie cars as I have an NZ made charger but with the NZ ones they are shorter like an NZ VH 770 chassis number is NZAVH8H1111
I am not sure if they included the date code in the chassis number or if they just had the date on the ID plate. CL7-H-29/1819 is only missing the date code so I would think that would be fine for your chassis number.
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 1975 Chrysler Avenger 1300 Super NZMR #553, 1972 Chrysler Valiant Charger 770 NZMR #384, 1980 Chrysler Avenger 1.3GL NZMR #432
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« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2010, 02:02:35 PM » |
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Can't help with the chassis numbers on the Vals but changing it can certainly be done but you'll need verification or proof that they can't deny, not sure where in NZ you can get that info on the Valiants. This is because the LTSA (obviously) won't change the chassis #, make, model, cc rating at will without good cause and the info being verified. I had several fields on my Challenger changed as they were wrong and I could prove so. I had 1 wrong digit in my VIN, 2,800cc instead of 7,200cc (done for insurances purposes back in 71), it had no sub-model ("R/T") which is more an OCD thing and it looks cooler on the VIR/CarJams lol and the colour they had was "white/black" which I changed to just "white". I had to fill in some forms from the VTNZ and send them off. I was told by VTNZ when I grabbed the forms that it could take anywhere from 2 to 6+ months for the LTSA to finally read and change the details. It took around 3-4 months for mine to change after a couple of calls to see how things were going, well worth it. Now my vehicles details are 100% correct. Good luck!! 
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Trouble 340
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« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2010, 03:03:08 PM » |
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Hey thanks guys, the guy at Western Compliance said if it was him he wouldn't have even bothered getting a low level cert  I guess this is what happens when you try and do the right thing  seemed like a good idea at the time. Now that I have already paid for the cert I'll get this sorted 
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Hell'n'Back
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« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2010, 03:15:43 PM » |
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Info about decoding here: http://www.chargerclubofwa.asn.au/production.aspSeems weird that your ID plate doesn't match the inner guard... CL7/CL8, In saying that your engine num suggests it had the 4 speed. Obviously you can't change the tag so as long as the number in their system matches the tag it'll be all go...?
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« Reply #7 on: July 07, 2010, 12:58:45 AM » |
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The body numbers (eg CL7-H-29) were not used as the chassis number on Aussie models.
Things may have changed by the time your one got here, but in the early 70's they just entered the paint code as the chassis number on Aussie Valiants. - Probably because they're either slack, or too blind to realise that it wasn't a VIN number they were looking at.
There will be numerous cars listed with the same chassis number. They just had to be the same colour. So for them to be so picky about having the correct chassis number is just wrong. Find a couple of people with Aussie Valiants in the area and get them to stop by the Cert place and show him what theirs have. If they're the same colour it would be even better.
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« Reply #8 on: July 07, 2010, 01:34:21 AM » |
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 I tried to find some examples to prove the point, but I can't find any. Everything I looked up was either NZ assembled, or had work done which possibly included fixing the chassis number (assuming t was wrong to begin with). My car definitely has the paint code listed as the chassis number and I have seen others (including a VJ that I used to own). So ignore what that moron (me) had to say. Maybe they didn't cock it up as often as I thought. 
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2010, 08:53:35 AM » |
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Thanks for all of your coments guys  I will check out that site when the boss isn't around  Beaurocrats are 
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Hell'n'Back
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2010, 09:47:53 AM » |
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 I tried to find some examples to prove the point, but I can't find any. Everything I looked up was either NZ assembled, or had work done which possibly included fixing the chassis number (assuming t was wrong to begin with). Below are the VIN numbers listed for my vehicles. The VK has the VIN number correct, (well almost - 9 instead of a G) My old VJ has the paint code for the VIN.
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« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2010, 06:23:17 PM » |
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My Chrysler by Chrysler had the paint code for the vin too,so I got it changed to the chassis number as it should have been in the first place 
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« Reply #12 on: July 23, 2010, 11:23:36 PM » |
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Yea ive seen this many times on the jam where they have used the paint code as the vin like TAUB1234 or BERG1234 Really quite amusing!! In fact i remember once when i took the AP5 in for a wof check at VTNZ he was about to take note of the Paint code number as the Chassis number untill i pointed out the Actual number...Dumb Asses 
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